From that same blog:
Ell,
I don’t mean to sound condescending, but you are really annoying the heck out of me with this particular charge.
My original article, before you ever showed up, without any editing after you showed up, clearly and unambiguously says I am not defending abortificients!
In my opinion, opining that “pills and patches” are from God is defending them. Of course on further discussion with you it appears that you actually believe that there exists some forms of pills and patches that somehow are NEVER abortifacient. ALL birth control methods, including hormonal ones HAVE A FAILURE RATE in preventing pregnancy. That is an undeniable easily researched fact. If they fail to prevent pregnancy some of the time then we KNOW that they allow ovulation some of the time and if that can happen it is not inconceivable to believe that the third action of preventing implantation doesn’t happen at least occasionally. That is an abortion.
Why do you inist on making this charge? Stop saying I am supporting abortificients unless you simply have some immature desire to rattle on saying “did too” after everytime I said “did not”
Um… well guilty – I actually do have that immature desire so…
Did too!!!
You seem to believe that all contracpetive pills and patches are abortifacient.
Yes, I believe that all contraceptive pills and patches can be potentially abortifacient and what really bothrs me as a mother, is that I would never know for certain if one of my own children hadn’t been lost in this way!
You’re simply wrong if you think all pills and patches are abortificients.
Estrogen at a high enough dose, even in an oral pill or patch, will prevent ovolution. There are side effects, but the original pill sold back in the 1960’s was exactly this type. If you asked your doctor for this type of pill, you can probably still get it.
Well Joe, you should research things before you post them.
High-estrogen pills are no longer available in Canada or the United States . They were removed from the market because of various dangerous side effects.
See more below.
Our initial, preliminary conclusion is that combination pills (estrogen + progestin) with high levels of estrogen are most likely to prevent ovulation, while progestin-only pills (the so-called mini-pills and Norplant) are less likely to prevent ovulation, relying more on thickened cervical mucous to restrict sperm mobility, and through preventing implantation of any embryo that might be formed in an unprepared/unreceptive uterine lining. Taking birth control pills according to directions helps to reduce ovulation and, hence, the possibility of fertilization taking place. Even so, there is never 100% success in preventing ovulation, and so there is always a possibility that fertilization can occur and the embryo be aborted because the uterine lining could not support implantation and growth. Just how often this might happen seems impossible to predict. Whether this ought to be considered an abortion is also a debatable issue. http://members.aol.com/revising/
All pills available today are “low dose,” especially when compared with the original pills first available in the 1960s. Those pills contained 150mcg of ethinyl estradiol (estrogen), whereas most pills today have 20-35 mcg, with a few containing 50 mcg. If taken correctly, a 20 mcg pill is as effective as one with more estrogen. All the hormones in the world will not prevent pregnancy if the pill is not taken properly
http://www.ivillagehealth.com/experts/womens/qas/0,,242103_151266,00.html.
Here are some other hormonal forms – all possibly abortifacient.
Depo Provera
Effectiveness: Failure rates of approximately 1 to 5%.
NOTE: MAY BE AN ABORTIVE METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL as fertilization of an egg is still possible.
Overview
Depo-Provera is a progestin (hormone) injection given by a doctor every three months (you must return to your health care provider thereafter for future injections). Although slightly different than the progestin in Norplant, Depo-Provera, and the mini-pill, these injections work in the same way. Depo-Provera works by preventing the development of the egg and by changing the cervical mucus, thus helping to prevent the sperm from reaching the egg. Unlike the “Pill,” it does not contain estrogen or need to be taken every day.
Benefits
One of the most effective forms of birth control
No estrogen-related side effects
One injection every three months
Disadvantages
Does not protect against sexually-transmitted diseases
Possible abortifacient.
Not a good choice if you want to be pregnant in the near future. It may take from nine to twenty-four months after you stop taking it to become pregnant
May experience headache, weight gain, nervousness, and menstrual irregularities
Some studies indicate increased chances of cervical cancer and breast cancer, and can also cause hemorrhaging
Similar progestins are known to cause fetal defects
Possible dizziness, allergy, depression, and ovarian cysts
Causes menstrual cycle irregularities for most users
May decrease bone density
The Pill Depo Provera Norplant
Norplant
Effectiveness: Failure rates of approximately 1 to 5% (varies based on woman’s weight and the length of time Norplant is used).
NOTE: See recent news story about Norplant lawsuit. Also, MAY BE AN ABORTIVE METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL as fertilization of an egg is still possible.
Overview
Norplant is a progestin (hormone) implant, consisting of six small plastic rods surgically placed under the skin of a woman’s upper arm. A low dose of progestin is then continuously released for up to five years. Norplant prevents pregnancy by inhibiting ovulation and by thickening the cervical mucus.
NOTE:
Women taking Norplant have been found to ovulate 11-73% of the time, making conception quite possible. If conception does occur, changes in the uterus will cause the abortion of the fertilized egg.
Benefits
Procedure usually takes less than ten minutes
Generally highly effective
Lasts up to five years but can be removed sooner
Contains no estrogen
Decrease in menstrual cramps
Disadvantages
Possible abortifacient.
Heavier women can expect more failures
Expensive, $500-700 for insertion
Prescription-only and must inserted by a health care provider
May alter menstrual cycle or cause irregular bleeding
Does not protect against sexually-transmitted diseases
May experience weight gain, breast tenderness or decrease in bone density
May be difficult to remove and/or cause scarring
http://www.abortiontv.com/hormonalmethods.htm
I have no clue what a trycycil is!
Depo Provera
Effectiveness: Failure rates of approximately 1 to 5%.
NOTE: MAY BE AN ABORTIVE METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL as fertilization of an egg is still possible.
Overview
Depo-Provera is a progestin (hormone) injection given by a doctor every three months (you must return to your health care provider thereafter for future injections). Although slightly different than the progestin in Norplant, Depo-Provera, and the mini-pill, these injections work in the same way. Depo-Provera works by preventing the development of the egg and by changing the cervical mucus, thus helping to prevent the sperm from reaching the egg. Unlike the “Pill,” it does not contain estrogen or need to be taken every day.
Benefits
• One of the most effective forms of birth control
• No estrogen-related side effects
• One injection every three months
Disadvantages
• Does not protect against sexually-transmitted diseases
• Possible abortifacient.
• Not a good choice if you want to be pregnant in the near future. It may take from nine to twenty-four months after you stop taking it to become pregnant
• May experience headache, weight gain, nervousness, and menstrual irregularities
• Some studies indicate increased chances of cervical cancer and breast cancer, and can also cause hemorrhaging
• Similar progestins are known to cause fetal defects
• Possible dizziness, allergy, depression, and ovarian cysts
• Causes menstrual cycle irregularities for most users
• May decrease bone density
The Pill Depo Provera Norplant
Norplant
Effectiveness: Failure rates of approximately 1 to 5% (varies based on woman’s weight and the length of time Norplant is used).
NOTE: See recent news story about Norplant lawsuit. Also, MAY BE AN ABORTIVE METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL as fertilization of an egg is still possible.
Overview
Norplant is a progestin (hormone) implant, consisting of six small plastic rods surgically placed under the skin of a woman’s upper arm. A low dose of progestin is then continuously released for up to five years. Norplant prevents pregnancy by inhibiting ovulation and by thickening the cervical mucus.
NOTE:
Women taking Norplant have been found to ovulate 11-73% of the time, making conception quite possible. If conception does occur, changes in the uterus will cause the abortion of the fertilized egg.
Benefits
• Procedure usually takes less than ten minutes
• Generally highly effective
• Lasts up to five years but can be removed sooner
• Contains no estrogen
• Decrease in menstrual cramps
Disadvantages
• Possible abortifacient.
• Heavier women can expect more failures
• Expensive, $500-700 for insertion
• Prescription-only and must inserted by a health care provider
• May alter menstrual cycle or cause irregular bleeding
• Does not protect against sexually-transmitted diseases
• May experience weight gain, breast tenderness or decrease in bone density
• May be difficult to remove and/or cause scarring
Tricyclic pills also prevent ovulation for up to three months. I mentioned Lupron already, and though I’m not sure it is given orally, it can prevent ovulation for up to six months by injection.
Trycyclics are antidepressants so I have no clue what you are talking about. Triphasils can be abortifacient.
Furthermore, as I have already stated, the technology continues to develop, and there is nothing precluding the development of new pills or patches that will prevent conception without causing any side effects.
Which simply does NOT mean that they will be morally licit.
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